Broken Church July 23, 2010
Posted by Phil Groom in Church, Theological Reflection, Watching and Waiting.Tags: Church, Insane ramblings of a deranged Christian, Jesus
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What is church? It’s people, broken people … pretending not to be broken … and that’s what breaks it…
… but things, maybe people too, are easily lost in the twittersphere, so I thought I’d say it again here.
I find church difficult: I love the fellowship, the shared communion, the sense (sometimes!) of common purpose, of being on a journey together; but then we get to the Bible readings, creeds, hymns, liturgy, prayers … and inside of me, just beneath the surface, there’s a voice screaming, “It’s not real!”
Or is it? Is there, somewhere amongst all the hype about God almighty, something real? Something deeper, something … transcendent?
People — myself included — talk about mission, evangelism, good news. But what’s good about believing fantasy? On what basis are we, is anyone, expected to invite people to become part of a community that so often can’t even see its own brokenness? What’s the good of lighting candles only to snuff them out? What’s the good of faking it for Jesus when Jesus reserved his harshest words for fakers?
And Jesus himself? Where are you, Jesus? Would we recognise you if you came to one of our services? Would you recognise our church services, meetings, fellowship groups — whatever we want to call them — as having anything to do with you?
Or would we find you sitting on the wall outside, having a smoke, broke and broken and wondering what it’s all about?
I am SO with you here.
Great post Phil – i totally hear ya…..
I may quote this in a blog post with your permission of course…
agreed.
and yeah, J, would be outside, sat on t’ wall having a fag.
am pleased you posted this, as i am one who didnt see it originally
xx
As always, thank y’all …
@supersimbo: please do.
Thinking maybe I’m gonna start a new facebook group called Church of the Broken People. Wanna join me? No beliefs required, just a determination to get along with each other…
PS: WTF wristbands optional!
Agreed. I just read the first chapter of a book called Radical by David Platt and it got me thinking. Seemed to be along the same lines of what you’re writing about here – have you heard of it? Can’t really say much about it because I’ve only read the first chapter!
There’s someone in my church who insists on singing the praises of church – nothing wrong with that, church can be fantastic. But to sing its praises and ignore the brokenness? Not really my style and it makes me uncomfortable.
Hey Karita – want to write a review for my Christian bookshops blog?
Facebook group now open: Church of the Broken People. Bring a friend!
Anyone up to designing a logo, please?
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Have forwarded details to my friend Karen who recently started a group for exactly these sorts of people – I need to join it tho
Phil,
Have you ever listened to Casting Crowns, think you’d like some of their stuff – especially Stained Glass Masquerade.
Have to admit their lifesongs album has been one of my favourite christian albums for quite a while now because they do at least try to ask the questions… oh and the musics not bad either!
Please, please, please tell me they’re not with Kingsway, coz that would just about finish me off… but otherwise, guess I’m gonna hafta tune in 🙂
Thanks Mel. Just found ’em on youtube:
they are with Integrity, or at least were
However, they are bland, middle-of-the-road Christian rock.
Also, I’m going to have a go at a logo, or some kind of graphic. I’ll let you know.
Thanks David – I’ve done a sort of random clipart collage for the moment, but something more intentional would be better.
Hey Phil, Yep I’m the Karen chick that Michael was talking about (read above LOL)..I recently stepped out of a ministry post to set up a church for people who ‘don’t fit’ in church..for broken and busted people!! ‘Down Community Church’ (known as DCC) I love it…I’m determined not to ‘make it church’!!! I guess the reality is when we strip the whole thing back…do any of us feel we fit in church??? LOL. Anyway we’re up and running…and we aint a ‘typical’ church…fag breaks are part of what we do!! We want people with their stuff..to come as they are..because the reality is…even the leader has her stuff!! Glad we connected! Karen
Cool 8)
“What is church? It’s people, broken people … pretending not to be broken … and that’s what breaks it…”
That rings so true!